Post by twetch#3375

1Jj8Ts…sGot Key · twetch

If we're talking about actually-existing geometric objects - not Euclidean nothings - then sure. A "square" is a composite object, made up of a finite number of points. The "diagonal" is another composite object whose units can be counted.

13bJsM…DNeu Key · twetch

Ok then if one side of the square has distance 1, then the diagonal has distance sqrt(2). What else would you call the distance?

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1Jj8Ts…sGot Key · twetch
Replying to@13bJsM…DNeu

You're working within Euclidean geometry. Space is discrete, not continuous, so there are no "squares" that have a distance of 1 unit.

Create a square on your computer screen. You'll see it's composed of a countable number of units (pixels).

1Jj8Ts…sGot Key · twetch
Replying to@1Jj8Ts…sGot

If your geometric investigations have only been within Euclidean geometry, or only working within continuous space, then discrete space can be unintuitive or shocking.

But alas, all space that we encounter, mental and physical, is actually discrete.

13bJsM…DNeu Key · twetch
Replying to@1Jj8Ts…sGot

Space is not discrete in Euclidian geometry.

1Jj8Ts…sGot Key · twetch
Replying to@13bJsM…DNeu

I know. I'm saying you are working within Euclidean geometry when you ask about the diagonal of a square with a side the length of 1.

I'm saying that no spatially-extended square has a side the length of 1, since actual squares are composite objects.

1Jj8Ts…sGot Key · twetch
Replying to@1Jj8Ts…sGot

In discrete space (in the real world), units of length refer to spatially-extended points. When we say "That square has a side whose length is 9", that means "there are 9 units which compose its side."

So, you can't have a composite object made of 1 unit.

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1Mi4SX…4SM2 Key · twetch
Replying to@1Jj8Ts…sGot

So either points are distributed in orthogonal grid and diagonal has equal length to the side of square (same amount of collinear points) or points are distributed in different fashion and squares don't exist?

13bJsM…DNeu Key · twetch
Replying to@1Mi4SX…4SM2

It's self-evident.

1Jj8Ts…sGot Key · twetch
Replying to@13bJsM…DNeu

Yes it is, if you think about it thoroughly enough.

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