The archetype you referenced is ABRAHAM. If you are Christian or Jewish, you believe he was going to sacrifice his son Isaac, if Muslim, his son Ishmael . All three religions stem from this event. Christians just repeated it. The Father sacrificing the Son
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No I think Jesus represents a progression of that archetype. Sacrifice for your blood is not the same as sacrifice for posterity in general. The former is ingrained biologically and the latter is a moral development in human culture
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Sacrifice of the son Jesus to god the father is not as interesting to me as the sacrifice of an influential man in favour of the generations to come-not of his bloodline but of his ideological heritage. Love the idea of thoughts permeating beyond blood/man
Jesus is a progress in the prototype because he was actually sacrificed (in the story), whereas Abraham was stopped by God's hand. I know that part doesn't interest you (I find it morbid) but Christianity wouldn't exist without this sacrifice.
I doubt Abraham was stopped is likely an after redaction of the story. Name change of the sacrifice (Isaac vs Ishmael as you pointed out) shows multiple versions floating round. I bet first version was pro-human sacrifice then later taboo & redacted.
It might be the willingness of sacrifice vs. sacrifice in itself. If your mindset is geared towards giving everything up in the name of a higher power you will be gifted with what you desire
Not a historical justification but a metaphysical reading
One of the lines that always perplexed me was: “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?”
Those sound like the words of a man regretting the situation he got himself in, not a demigod
it interests me in that it draws a line between freewill and fate
That was Mathews version of Jesus's last words & yes he is not in control.
John 19:30: It is finished. (He is in control)
Luke 23:46: Father, into thy hands I commit my spirit. (He decides)
They are not recounting the biography of a historic figure.