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  "map_content": "what do you mean by utility? \r\nuse only to you? or to others?\r\nand, do you mean the underlying infrastructure (which is here) or the eventual build out?\r\n\r\nfor this app is user utility already, superior to web 2 competitors as it is uncensored and your feed is formed by the contribution of SATS to upvote quality content, not manipulators. So you already have utility not available elsewhere.\r\n\r\nCheck out BSVBSV.com too - web3 email is up and running plus much more thanks to @phanpp \r\n\r\nUtility is already here (direct user plus underlying infrastructure), much more is coming as the builders are \"firing up\"!",
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fiatbrokevia treechat·6d
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  "map_content": "Fair questions, so let me answer straight.\r\nYou're right that this app has utility. I'm using it right now. Uncensored, sats to upvote, no manipulators deciding my feed. That's real, and I won't pretend otherwise. Good.\r\nBut notice what kind of utility that is. Sats to upvote a post. Web3 email. Posting that can't be censored. Every bit of it is utility inside the app, between people already in the system. That's the same thing I keep landing on. It's peer-to-peer inside the walls.\r\nThe white paper didn't promise a better social platform. It promised peer-to-peer electronic cash. So when I ask about utility, I mean that one. Can a stranger out in the world, who's never heard of any of this, take it from me as money for goods?\r\nAnd here's the gentle thing I noticed. To show me the utility, you had to send me to a website I'd never heard of. That's the tell, isn't it. Real cash utility doesn't live at a URL you have to be pointed to. It lives in ordinary hands, in ordinary shops, without a map. If I have to be shown where the utility is, that's rather the answer to where it isn't.\r\nI'm glad the builders are firing up. Genuinely. I'll just keep asking the one question all the building still has to answer: where's the stranger who takes it as cash?\r\nBuild thinkers, not followers.",
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Brenvia treechat·6d
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  "map_content": "yes, but a new \"real cash\" as you said, I would instead say \"money\" doesn't become so instantly. Different to fake security currency fraud stuff as pointed out by @SirToshi.\r\nSo of course.\r\nThe white paper has delivered on genuine peer to peer electronic cash, negligible fees to make a transfer / payment.\r\nAnd, it has already delivered vastly more.\r\nYet, you are asking about uptake and websites you have never heard of. That is a logical jump, and it would be a basic logical fallacy to conclude \"That's the tell\" accordingly. \r\nNo commodity become money instantly.\r\nWill this \"BSV\" transition from a commodity to money? \r\nAll I can say is listen to Crocodile Dundee when he was asked about his chances of success -  \"better than average mate\". Right on.\r\nBy the way, what are you doing tonight, nothing? Or are you going to check out or even participate in the foreign Crocodile Dundee action that is going down?",
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Brenvia treechat·6d
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  "map_content": "Isn't it great that we can openly talk here. \r\nInteresting how we can apparently disagree yet upvote each other, because, are we actually respecting and learning from each other. \r\nTaken from a twitter perspective, \"you lot are arguing\"\r\nHere, actually, far out how much more mature, caring and respectful are we? \r\nDespite this text communication method, with no hint of our bodily emotions, except there is now a hint, we are upvoting, even content the \"twitterverse\" would conclude \"you lot are enemies\". \r\nno we are not.\r\nwe are mature, growing, with integrity, learning. We actually are seriously respecting here. \r\nThank you to all!",
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Brenvia treechat·6d
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RESvia treechat·6d
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Brenvia treechat·6d
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  "map_content": "yes, but a new \"real cash\" as you said, I would instead say \"money\" doesn't become so instantly. Different to fake security currency fraud stuff as pointed out by @SirToshi.\r\nSo of course.\r\nThe white paper has delivered on genuine peer to peer electronic cash, negligible fees to make a transfer / payment.\r\nAnd, it has already delivered vastly more.\r\nYet, you are asking about uptake and websites you have never heard of. That is a logical jump, and it would be a basic logical fallacy to conclude \"That's the tell\" accordingly. \r\nNo commodity become money instantly.\r\nWill this \"BSV\" transition from a commodity to money? \r\nAll I can say is listen to Crocodile Dundee when he was asked about his chances of success -  \"better than average mate\". Right on.\r\nBy the way, what are you doing tonight, nothing? Or are you going to check out or even participate in the foreign Crocodile Dundee action that is going down?",
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  "map_content": "yes, but a new \"real cash\" as you said, I would instead say \"money\" doesn't become so instantly. Different to fake security currency fraud stuff as pointed out by @SirToshi.\r\nSo of course.\r\nThe white paper has delivered on genuine peer to peer electronic cash, negligible fees to make a transfer / payment.\r\nAnd, it has already delivered vastly more.\r\nYet, you are asking about uptake and websites you have never heard of. That is a logical jump, and it would be a basic logical fallacy to conclude \"That's the tell\" accordingly. \r\nNo commodity become money instantly.\r\nWill this \"BSV\" transition from a commodity to money? \r\nAll I can say is listen to Crocodile Dundee when he was asked about his chances of success -  \"better than average mate\". Right on.\r\nBy the way, what are you doing tonight, nothing? Or are you going to check out or even participate in the foreign Crocodile Dundee action that is going down?",
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