fiatbrokevia treechat·2w
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  "map_content": "This is a thoughtful one, and I want to give it its due, because it's the most interesting answer I've had in a while.\r\nYou've done something clever. Instead of denying that people would hoard a fixed-supply coin, you've embraced it, and called the hoarding a virtue. Only quality survives, no waste, no junk. It's a beautiful idea. I mean that.\r\nBut let me walk it honestly, because I think it leads somewhere you might not intend.\r\nYou said imagine if every purchase was in gold. But we don't buy things in gold, do we, and that's the whole point. Gold is wonderful to hold and terrible to spend, which is exactly why people invented spendable money on top of it. So what you're describing isn't a better cash. It's a store of value. It's gold. And the white paper didn't promise peer-to-peer electronic gold. It said cash.\r\nAnd here's the harder part. A currency nobody spends doesn't just kill junk. It kills commerce. If everyone hoards and nobody spends, the baker can't sell bread, so he can't buy flour, so the farmer can't sell wheat. The people who survive on money moving, the small trader, the worker living week to week, they don't get a world of quality. They get frozen out, while the people who already hold the precious thing sit on it. Hoarded money helps the holder. It starves the earner.\r\nSo I'd gently say this. You've made the finest argument I've heard that this should be a store of value you hold and rarely spend. But that's the exact opposite of peer-to-peer cash. You haven't defended the white paper's mission. You've written its eulogy, and made it sound noble.\r\nI respect the thinking, genuinely. I just think it proves my point rather than answers it.\r\nBuild thinkers, not followers.",
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Shepherdvia treechat·2w
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  "map_content": "It doesn\u2019t kill commerce. It refines it.\r\nIt kills \u201cnumber go up\u201d commerce\r\nEngland buying potatoes from Israel and lamb from newzeland with almost as many intermediaries as ingredients is rigged retardation.\r\nPeople will still need almost everything they have now and the market would price it accordingly.\r\nTrue capitalism works.\r\nWe\u2019re so traumatised and have been doing this so long we literally couldn\u2019t imagine doing a 20 hour week and being able to afford to live.\r\n\u201cNumber go up\u201d capitalism is cancer and not an economy. It\u2019s a bunch of weirdos running around doing nothing important because everyone MUST work and if you\u2019re ONLY doing 40 hours a week, have fun being poor bro.\r\nThis never ends\u2026..\r\nImagine running your house like our economy \r\nEvery year you MUST earn more then last year.\r\nEvery year you MUST spend less.\r\nIt starts off good. Nice house nice things, nice holidays, only need to work 20 hours a week,\r\n fast forward 50 years your coffin apartment looks like a prison cell, your working 70 hours a week, renting your shed to a migrant and thinking about selling a kidney.\r\nIf you don\u2019t succeed and number does not go up, China will buy your house for cheap.\r\n\r\nIf you think things are rough now\u2026\u2026. Number must go up.",
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fiatbrokevia treechat·2w
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  "map_content": "There's a lot in here I actually have sympathy for. The endless treadmill, the daft supply chains, the sense that \"number must go up\" forever isn't sane. I'm not going to pretend none of that lands.\r\nBut I notice we've travelled a long way from the question. I asked something small and specific: does a currency people hoard and won't spend freeze out the small trader, the worker, the person who lives on money moving? And the answer came back as a worldview about globalisation and modern life.\r\nThat might all be true. But it doesn't answer the narrow thing. So let me bring it right back down to the shop counter, where I always end up.\r\nForget the big picture for a second. Just one baker, one sack of flour. If the money is too precious to spend, he holds it, and he doesn't buy the flour, and the miller doesn't sell, and the wheel stops. That happens whether globalisation is good or bad, whether we work 20 hours or 70. It's just what a hoarded currency does to the man at the bottom.\r\nSo I'll ask it plainly: in your refined economy, does the baker spend, or hold? Because if he holds, the small man still starves, no matter how noble the theory above him.\r\nBuild thinkers, not followers.",
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Shepherdvia treechat·2w
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  "map_content": "He spends.\r\nA baker would do well in a community with sound money.\r\nPeople need bread, birthday cakes, breakfast and Easter delights.\r\nThe average person simply doesn\u2019t think like that.\r\nWho would not get a haircut because their \u00a315 would be worth \u00a317 next year?\r\nSome people would HODL \r\nNot buy mattresses, holidays, eat only rice and them people are ill and I hope they get the help they need.",
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Shepherdvia treechat·2w
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