We cant gain a vantage point to prove any philosophical statements because we’re not outside the system we’re trying to prove— Not even the angels in heaven knows Gods face. When someone claims they’ve proved what millions have hashed at for hundreds of years it always throws me off
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We are 100%, always bound by past experience and "animal" instinct.
I'm not sure which is more "important", probably past experience in most cases.
Both of these are imbued by a random beginning. To random parents. Who imprint you before you are even conscious, before you have memory.
We are imprinted by genetics (random) and parents/external influences personalities (random).
We become conscious, we already have likes and dislikes imprinted. We did not "choose" these. They just exist within us already, because of external influences (past experience) and genetics (instinct).
We proceed to grow with all these imprints. We feel like we are choosing throughout - but we aren't. We are DEFAULTING. We may be presented with "multiple options", but we cannot possibly choose any of the options but one, because of imprinting from past experience, and instinct. We default to one of the "options". We never had an option. We were bound to do one thing over the others, due to our imprinting from past experience (leading back to a random beginning), and instinct.
That isn't free will. That's deterministic.
Free will is 100%, objectively not possible here. I'm not even sure why it's a debate, honestly, it's obvious it's not possible here.
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For example, in a high stakes scenario - a man in a bank pulls a gun out and tells everyone to get down.
You are either instinctually going to get down (because of your history), or you are an outlier (because of your history as well), who tries to be a hero.
Nobody CHOOSES to get down, or be a hero, in that scenario. It just fucking happens, based on who you are, which is 100% a result of past experience and instinct.
It's all fated dudes. Reality like this, it has to be fated. It only moves forwards in time. Random beginnings. Random influences and biology that define your entire life.
It's all fated. This is a fated experience. Deal with it.
You’re definitely bounded by your circumstances, but predeterminism doesn’t exclude free will. Conscious intention synergizes with the current you’re being dragged down, and the grooves can fork into clouds of possibility. Outside time (change) everything is determined, thats why “whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.”
God valuing our agency speaks to his goodness, and thats something you hear over and over again in NDEs and other testimonies, choices are always highly respected
We’ll have to agree to disagree, it’s a matter of «the evidence of things not seen», faith cant be intellectualized and i dont think intention can either but i’d like to hear what you think intention and inspiration is
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