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1Jj8Ts…sGot Key · twetch

Why "definitely"? Mathematics is a language, and just like any language, the symbols don't necessarily correspond to some independently existing part of the universe.

What explanatory benefit do you gain from saying the sqrt(2) is a fixed quantity?

13bJsM…DNeu Key · twetch

Well it doesn't change, does it? So how can it not be fixed?

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1Jj8Ts…sGot Key · twetch
Replying to@13bJsM…DNeu

Depends on what "it" is. The formula doesn't change, but the output of the formula does, depending on how many times you iterate.

1.41 is different than 1.414 is different than 1.4142, etc.

The formula stays the same. The output changes.

13bJsM…DNeu Key · twetch
Replying to@1Jj8Ts…sGot

Ok, so? is sqrt(2) a quantity or is it the output of a formula? If it is a quantity then there is no finite formula for it. If it is the output of a formula then it is something that converges on the quantity but never reaches it.

1FgiUa…dxR7 Key · twetch
Replying to@13bJsM…DNeu

Arithmetic is broken. Modular arithmetic is ok though.

1Jj8Ts…sGot Key · twetch
Replying to@13bJsM…DNeu

"The square root of two" is a way to describe a formula. The formula is a construction that generates outputs. The outputs differ depending on how many iterations you run.

There is no "converging" on a quantity. The outputs just gain decimals.

1Jj8Ts…sGot Key · twetch
Replying to@1Jj8Ts…sGot

Perspective A: "The sqrt(2) is a quantity whose value we don't know, can never know, and can only approximate"

Perspective B: "The sqrt(2) is a formula that generates outputs of increasing decimal length, starting with 1.41 and never repeating"

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13bJsM…DNeu Key · twetch
Replying to@1Jj8Ts…sGot

each step of the computation results in a number with a finite representation that is closer to the quantity than the previous one. There is no positive distance that we don't get closer to eventually.

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1F8LZF…8gsQ Key · twetch
Replying to@1Jj8Ts…sGot

if you exist on a circle but as you walk across it, you observe an infinite “non countable” line, this doesn’t mean there is no circle. it merely means there is bias

you would have to exist outside the circle to call it a circle (in this scenario)

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