Post by twetch#2782

1MV8wZ…qddR Key · twetch

All of nchain’s techniques for globally stateful L1 apps make use of compute oracles or as I call them “CSW oracles”, have a look at Run or SuperAsset for case studies.
Btw I didn’t say I thought it will fail, I said it doesn’t create an L1 network effect

1MV8wZ…qddR Key · twetch

As a last note I am open to being proven wrong, in particular I think there could be some way to use a tree structure to encode “backtrack” transactions into the solution provided by xhliu, making it practical at scale even if theoretically constrained.

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twetch#2782

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1MV8wZ…qddR Key · twetch
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But to be clear, this is layers of hacks on hacks on hacks, it is absolutely using tricks to work around limitations which could be easily addressed with a very minor architectural improvement with zero drawbacks.

1MV8wZ…qddR Key · twetch
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One more side note, if you’re looking at BCH ops then look at GROUP, not DSV. Despite what coingeek has published, OP_PUSH_TX does not enable the same generality, for the reason the commenter @joe responded in that thread by scrypt guy

1C2Lvc…1Ktc Key · twetch
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  1. i hope you figure out some merkle magic to track back! what did @xhilu say?
  2. GROUP was not forked in though, OP_DSV was. ugly politics surrounded all that.
1C2Lvc…1Ktc Key · twetch
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  1. re "zero drawbacks": there is an enormous legal/PR advantage to being able to say that, strictly speaking, BSV is bitcoin (it follows the original protocol). start pushing changes and you lose that . . .
1MV8wZ…qddR Key · twetch
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  1. He made a thinking face but so far we haven't come up with anything yet. 2 is good to know, although the flip side to the benefits of a finalized protocol is how frustrating it is that BSV's original L1 appears to be "so close yet so far".
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