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i thought this was bitfinex lmao

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🙇‍♂️ youre the best siri

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/pay @2518 $2.18 as Series A investment

🙏 thank you for taking the time to explain this to me

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ah this makes more sense

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is this orientation in a geometric sense?

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meaning it is not a transaction of one thing exchanging for another, but rather a continuous transformation of that thing into a different state?

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ohhhhhhhh so this is where CGP comes in

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oh that looks pretty interesting, quite scalable lol

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mongo is a document store database, basically its a complex key value pair. mongo was created to store JSON objects over a decade ago during the rise of javascript. despite its popularity and ease of use, its a poor data storage mechanism at scale

twetch#864 6.0y

Scylla and cassandra like nosql would also be appropriate. I think the best is a combination of multiple different stacks, even transactional maybe on top. I wouldn’t recommend mongo it doesn’t scale. Xoken vega looks promising.

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though neo is quite interesting, i personally have never seen it scale it while outperforming relational databases. there is decades of knowledge for how to scale relational databases, the same can't be said for non relational (excluding columnstore/kvp)

twetch#7453 6.6y

a graph db is merely abstraction

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interesting that it's more like mongo than neo

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of course. there are a what we call SQL (relational) databases and NoSQL (non relational) databases. SQL is pretty set theoretic with joins, unions etc across tables, NoSQL is more open with four types:

  • document store
  • key value
  • column store
  • graph
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neo4j is a graph database. this is based off of graph theory and handles every object as nodes and edges. this was kind of pioneered by the sparql movement awhile back, but wikidata uses graph databases as their backend for many things.

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the reason this is important is bc mongo isn't particularly difficult to implement and i wouldn't call it a graph. frankly, it's just not that useful for scalable applications imo. i have not looked at urbit's yet implementation though so i can't judge

twetch#7453 5.9y

interesting that it's more like mongo than neo

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i havent really looked into urbit's graph store yet, but i just don't think mongo is that interesting or useful for scalable systems. i hope that there is more to it than that tbqh

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if you really care about graph like data, geospacial indices within relational systems are probably one of the most interesting methods you could use to scale

twetch#7453 6.5y

i would love to see someone pull off a graph db equivalent using spacial indices in SQL. really wouldn't be that hard, could probs beat neo4j performance on high d recursion pretty easily

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document store databases allow you to "basically store anything". this freedom makes it extremely difficult to analyze the results, especially with large amounts of data. graph databases handle wildly recursive relationships, but that often isn't good

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thats koala to you

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twetch#2761 6.9y

What, me worry?